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 Post subject: Who died before collected their Social Security
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:48 pm 
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How about this? Why is no one in DC answering these questions? What a scam
they have pulled off!


KEEP PASSING THIS AROUND UNTIL EVERY ONE HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ
IT... THIS IS SURE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!!!!

THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S CALCULATION OF AVAILABLE SOCIAL
SECURITY IS THEY FORGOT TO FIGURE IN THE PEOPLE WHO DIED BEFORE THEY EVER
COLLECTED A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!!!WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO?

Remember, not only did you and I contribute to Social Security but your
employer did, too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you
averaged only $30K over your working life, that's close to $220,500. Read
that again. Did you see where the Government paid in one single penny? We
are talking about the money you and your employer put in a Government bank
to insure you and I that we would have a retirement check from the money we
put in, not the Government. Now they are calling the money we put in an
entitlement when we reach the age to take it back. If you calculate the
future invested value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer's
contribution) at a simple 5% interest (less than what the govt. pays on the
money that it borrows), after 49 years of working you'd have $892,919.98.
IV>

If you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $26,787.60 per year and it
would last better than 30 years (until you're 95 if you retire at age 65)
and that's with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you
bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of
$2,976.40 per month.

Another thing with me.... I have two deceased husbands who died in their
50's, (one was 51 and the other one was 59 before one percent of their
social security could be drawn. I worked all my life and am drawing 100% on
my own social security). Their S.S. money will never have one cent drawn
from what they paid into S.S. all their lives.

THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON HAVE PULLED OFF A BIGGER PONZI SCHEME THAN BERNIE
MADOFF EVER DID.

Entitlement my foot, I paid cash for my social security insurance! Just
because they borrowed the money for other government spending, doesn't make
my benefits some kind of charity or handout!!

Remember Congressional benefits? --- free healthcare, outrageous retirement
packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick
days. Now that's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my social security
retirement payments entitlements?



They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us
have been paying for it all our working lives, and now, when it's time for
us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the
government borrow from it in the first place? It was supposed to be in a
locked box, not part of the general fund.

Sad isn't it?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:25 pm 
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This country needs a re-boot. Far too many laws that only protect the politicians and their flunkies.

I was watching a show the other day - Doomsday Preppers. They aren't worried about a nuclear war - but a civil war. I'm starting to think they might be right.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:10 pm 
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not me been collecting since August 2011, and I still work full time, it is nice now that you can make any amount and still collect your full amount. Deerslayer


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:51 pm 
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Good on you Deerslayer and God bless!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:04 pm 
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I will be suprized if I ever see a SS check. It really blows my mind how the idiots in DC are steadily blowing our money. They have been pushing for the "one world government"... it's coming.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:11 am 
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harley wrote:
not me been collecting since August 2011, and I still work full time, it is nice now that you can make any amount and still collect your full amount. Deerslayer


My late mother got a check every month - a couple hundred bucks - not even close to what she put in... I guess she should have hopped the fence and changed her name to something south of the border and she would have had a real check.

I glad to hear someone that deserves the full amount is getting it - you are the minority of Americans.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:46 pm 
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everyone I know that put in is getting out their full amount at retirement age, the ones that started collecting before the change of the law, being allow to collect your full amount and make all you want working, had to give up some while they worked. I have not spoke to a single person that is not collecting what they should get at thier retirement age. I seem to know more people every year, must mean I am getting old.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:15 pm 
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My neighbor isn't getting the amount he's entitled to - maybe it's a CA thing.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:09 am 
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Not sure this is true, but I have no reason to doubt the teller. A guy I used to work with had a guy working on his ranch that was from Mexico. He never paid into the SS system, but he was drawing a check from it.

The bottom line on the SS system is it should be fully self contained. What is paid into it should pay the benefits and nothing more. It's not a slush fund for the crooked politicians. When a person south of our border can come into the fold and draw full benefits then the system is obviously broken.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:30 am 
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YUP


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