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 Post subject: Re: How Do You Cook Salmon?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:13 am 
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Darkginger, welcome aboard and thank you for coming!

I applaud your action to come here and help us, and I hope that you will continue to provide us with answers to our questions on cooking!

Your admission that you know nothing about bikes is an honest one. At one time every single one of us knew nothing about bikes. We started as newbs, learned our skills, found mentors and made a lot of mistakes. We will do the same with cooking, as in any pursuit.

Perhaps we can encourage you to find a Harley shop in your area and meet some folks.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:06 am 
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Darkginger wrote:
Hi there :) I've come to visit from the cooking forum The Tourist mentioned - I know nothing about bikes, but might be able to help with the salmon :) I'm from the UK and live in Ireland, so my common fish species might differ a bit from yours - but we do have some great wild salmon here!

1. When you're buying fish, it's easiest to tell how fresh it is if it's still whole. You're looking for bright eyes and shiny scales - and there shouldn't be a 'fishy' smell at all. If it's really fresh, it'll still be stiff, but that's unlikely unless you live close to the sea. Buying fish in fillets makes it a bit harder - but again, give it a good sniff - no smell=good.

2. Fish doesn't take a lot of cooking. A lot of people (me included) like it to still be a bit translucent in the middle (depending on fish type, but salmon, for sure). This is more true of oily fish (salmon, mackerel, tuna etc.) than white fish (cod, haddock and so on). Overcooking will result in dry meat, and a crumbly texture. Cook it just right, and it'll melt in your mouth.

3. You have a few ways of getting your fish cooked right. You can use high heat and sear it on the outside, which can give you crispy skin - good if you have a herb crust or something on your fish. Alternatively, you can use a lower heat and cook it more gently - poaching it in a flavoured liquid, for example. Microwave cooking works really well with fish, but you have to be careful not to overdo it.

4. So, let's say you have a 1" thick salmon steak. We don't get the weather for much outdoor grilling here, so I'll assume you're doing this in a kitchen. What I'd do - for a plain piece of fish (we can get on to marinades etc. later if you're interested) - is put a tablespoon of olive oil in a frying pan, followed by a lump of butter (the oil stops the butter from burning, the butter imparts flavour).

Heat the oil/butter over a medium to high heat, until the butter starts to foam (just what it sounds like). Add your salmon steak - now watch the side of it (the 1" depth, if you like) - you'll see it begin to change colour and become pale pink rather than the raw red it was. Give it about a minute (but watch the colour change - it depends on how strong your heat source is), by which time the cooked area should be about 1/3 up the depth of the steak. Now flip it over, and cook for another minute on the other side. The cooked regions should just about be meeting in the middle. The salmon's ready for eating.

If it's not cooked enough for your preference, you know to leave it a bit longer next time - but don't be afraid of leaving a bit warm but raw looking in the middle - it's delicious! This method works REALLY well with fresh tuna steaks - in fact I like them with only about 2mm of cooked depth on each side, and the centre almost raw. Better than a rare beef steak, I think.

If you want to do this on a BBQ, grease a piece of aluminium (aluminum to you;)) foil with butter and make a packet with it for your salmon - you won't be able to watch the cooking process 'cos you can't see through foil (doh!) - but a 1" thick salmon steak should take around 1 minute on each side, maybe a bit more - experience will educate you about this, cos grill heats obviously vary.

So that's lesson 1 - if you're interested let me know and I'll go on to lesson 2 - poaching salmon (in the cooking sense, not the illegal hunting sense, though it has been known (cough))...

Oh, and if you're into dips - try making your own tartare sauce to go with this - mix mayonnaise with some chopped capers and a chopped pickle - simple as that :)

Hope that helps some, and do feel free to ask if any of it's unclear :)


Thank You very much!!
More than helpful and very appreciated.
I'll try it and let you know how it works out next time.

My home made tartar sauce, mayo, sweet pickle relish and horse radish - if you like that stuff, I love it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:10 am 
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Darkginger, welcome aboard and thank you for coming!

Thanks for the hook up T


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roadking wrote:
Thanks for the hook up T


No prob. It dovetails with my belief in "slow, quality growth" for forums. I've met some good people there, and if you read DG's latest post in the cooking forum he reports that he is being seduced by a red Electra-Glide that is for sale.

You got a salmon recipe, he might get a bike. Win/win.


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I was a bit disappointed this morning when signing onto the cooking forum. As is the case of small minds, we had a bit of backlash, but it's primarily one known troll who doesn't really like anything. (He is on my ignore list.) I addressed the issue, and I hope it's over.

However, I do also hope many of the HRF members sign up there, as well. There is lots of info there pertaining to many factions of preparing food. For example, I'll bet a good number of us barbeque.

Now that Darkginger is a member, and hopefully buys that Glide, we have a valuable resource in getting some questions answered. For example, during my wife's knee surgery and rehab, I had to do the shopping, and trust me guys, that takes more than the simple act of tossing stuff into a cart! I can now pick out good bananas and heads of lettuce. I found that differing type of yogurt are displayed in three separate place at the store.

There are ancillary benefits. Remember those micro-fiber sponges? I found them by grocery shopping.

I hope some of us join the cooking forum. It thunderstormed in my area this morning. Times like this provide with ample time to do research, and cooking is one of those hobbies.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:21 pm 
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I hope your friend gets that bike I can payback with help here.
As for the shopping, I'm what you call a confirmed bachelor, been shopping and cooking for 30+ years, you ever have any questions on that subject I'm happy to help. Being a once elite athlete, now I just enjoy the exercise, I know the foods and values and mostly how to make delicious BBQ and Italian dishes.
I learned the pasta trade back east from authentic recipes. Make a killer lasagna. Steaks and chicken no problem.


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LOL, RK, I wish some of the cooks at the cooking forum could hear that! Along with the good guys like DG, you get your common band of naysayers. You get the impression from them that a biker cannot teach them much.

However, in your one paragraph you have outlined more food related knowledge that many of them wish they had. I don't have that knowledge. In fact, I bought a Redisetgo just to make sure I could figure out how to make simple dishes if my wife's rehab took longer than first outlined.

But I like the idea of preparing food, and now that I have lost a ton of weight the idea of good food has become more important. And it's about time I start to learn how to use the knives I sharpen. Knowledge is power, and if you stop the desire to learn that's when you start to age.

I may never take up ballroom dancing, but I have found some good people, some interesting history and some useable information on just about every forum I've joined.


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I know the butchers down at the local market. I 've been going there since 87, and have had a good friendship with everyone of the guys that have worked there. I get some very good cuts of meat, Once Dave(name changed), had his BBQ rained out and when I asked for my favorite Sirloins he said "I've got something special for ya", went into the back and pulled out a package of steaks. As he handed them over the counter to me the confided that they were for him and his brother, since they weren't having their BBQ he told me we didn't need them and offered them to me, as he winked. Some of the best steaks I've ever had out of that market.
I like my steak blacked on the outside and red/rare on the inside covered in garlic and pepper with a little salt for flavor.

Get the grill as hot as it gets, wash the meat well, get off any loose cuttings or bone fragments, let it drip off well, place in large plate apply seasonings to both sides. Place on hot grill directly over fire. Time for thickness, 4 minutes side one, flip 3-4 side 2, remove from grill let rest on plate for a couple minutes, enjoy.
I make a side dish of rice, 2 cups water, add beef bullion, 1 tab butter, seasonings: garlic, pepper, Italian mix, let boil, add 2 cups frozen veggies, let boil again, add 1 cup rice, let boil again, turn down heat to low, cook for 20 minutes, done.

I make the rice first when I cook meat, short cook time, I make the rice after I put the chicken on longer cook time, and use chicken flavor instead of beef.


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Man, I wish you lived closer, I'd be eating at your house...

I admire people who can research and create this type of cuisine. When I have time enough to lay out a good meal I usually find a better excuse to go putz on the highway. Even if it rains I find chrome to polish to just to get out of the house.

'Cooking' is a skill I wish I had, and the patience to see those things through to the end. I love good tasting food. Having said that, I'm my own worst enemy.

For example, I had two chicken salads today and about five latte' coffees, one at B&N.


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I thought i was in a harley forum but what the heck. I fish too. And love salmon. Only buy Wild Salmon if you have to buy it. Darkginger had the basics. Spade L seasoning and a little butter. Keep it simple. Maybe a little lemon. 20 minutes max or turn up the temp a little. If your on the grill either skin on one side, or use foil.


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